Early 1996 Interview With Tori On Dutch Programme "Veronica In Concert"

Sent to me by Dennis Snelders . This aired on Dutch TV sometime in January 1996.

"In music you learn form. They teach form in music school. I don't think of form now. I learned form in a very involved way, sice I was a little girl, playing at the conservatory. But now I have no regard for form. At this stage now, I don't follow anyone's form as a musician. I instinctively know."

"There's a lot of different form going on between Jimi Hendrix, Bantok, Fatz Waller and Brahms. And the gift was, it became a place where, after you've learned how it works, you can take all the rules and throw them away and say: ' I have to make my own now.' You've learned other people's rules. It's like a map, like a map. And then you take the map away and say ' I have to make my own path down this mountain now. I've seen how other people have navigated and now I'm gonna take my own little boat.' I think that's the whole idea of creativity. It's trusting in your own way. That's when it gets exciting, not on copying."

"I come towards (?) myself as it's happening, because it's in the acknowledgement, in the acceptance, that begins to shift things. You see, if you don't have access to your unconscious and you don't have access to the sides of yourself that you don't wanna look at, I think you aren't being controlled and you are out of balance. It's when you're looking at them, they come into balance."

"I think music is probably the closest place to Avalon. The idea of you can go through the vale, go through the mist. Almost music has keys where it opens doors. You can almostgo to other dimensions. Music leads you to memories in yourself, I truly believe that. It's like a magic carpet."

"As a player, it's about learning a language, a music language. And at a really young age, I didn't have...you know, I had multi-culture coming into my ears, so that was a real gift, and I thank my mother for that. My mother's part Cherokee, so there's a real gift in that."

"So the musical vocabulairy didn't have limitations, but everything else in my life was very strict. So the only place for imagination and freedom was music."

Q:"You created your own, safe and secret world?"

"I was trying to find out what was my idea of a woman. What was my idea of a man. What was my idea of free. Free." "In all cultures on the planet there's an inbalance of the feminine. Within men, within women. It's about honour. Honour. You see a lot of angry women, bittered women because they haven't released their anger and then healed. It's a proces, you can't skip steps on the ladder, you just can't. Why would you want to?"

(I think the question here was "What do you, PJ Harvey and Bjork have in common?")

"Past and Present. It's..........you know, the one thing we have in common is that we're all very different.(smiles) And you always come back to the thing of 'Hey, this is what I do.' These are my experiences, growing up in North Carolina as a daughter of a minister, experienced some violent situations, finding myself again and again and again in this victim scene, thinking I'm this little martyr and it's just...KGGR (puts her finger in her mouth). And at a certain point you go on the marshmellows tour and let's have a little roast. And that's what I know of Polly has another set of experiences as Bjork."

"Losing my religion just kinda came to me. The girl who's being attacked and lets part of herself go, that's where Losing my religion was appropriate. Michael (Stipe)'s idea of what Losing my religion is, is probably different than mine. I asked him to come to the studio and listen. And he came and sat there and there were tears running down of his face. And that was important to me because I needed to know that he thought that I had honoured his song. I wanted him to understand. We never talked about what his version or mine meant, there were no words necessairy."

"When I heard Smells like Teen Spirit, it was like my blood just stood up and saluted and said: 'Something has been turned around in my way of thinking.' And the piano said: 'Take this to me.'"

"Because there's a different angle. It's like a smell. You can smell it. I said this yesterday, when I was talking to one of the other reporters, one of the Dutch guys. You see the different layers when you allow yourself to go through. You go in and you know the matrix, you see what makes up the molecule, of each note, when you crawl into it."

"My songs already exist. They just visit me, and I translate them. And the way I translate them is by having an experience. The experience makes me see everything more clearly. It's funny, sometimes a song will come and I'll be developing it, and I won't understand what it is. But later I think: Oh, that's what that's about. And then I start to think and start to feel it. And then the song takes on a whole other dimension."

"I wouldn't call it posession, although I do believe in posession. This is more like going into a place into myself that maybe I haven't been willing to recognise, like in the song Professional Widow, where she seduces men to their death so that she can have their power."

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